Episode 10

Conversation | Grief, Hope, & Kindness with Leslie Hershberger

2020 was a dumpster fire, and we walk into 2021 with great expectations. On this New Year’s Eve, we offer to you a powerful conversation about this threshold from one year to the next with our dear friend Leslie Hershberger. It’s tempting to shake off the dust of this past year and never look back. Maybe there’s another way? 

 

  • How do we honor and integrate our pain and loss from this past year? [1:47]
  • James Finley: “Love doesn’t save us from suffering. But it does sustain us.” [15:15]
  • The threshold from 2020 to 2021 [29:50]
  • Hold the thing that is holding you back [31:50]
  • How do we look to and dream of the future without being attached to its outcomes? [33:25]
  • The difference between wise hope and clinging to an outcome [37:00]
  • How kids are natural mystics [47:00]
  • Morgan Harper Nichols on giving ourselves grace [50:45]
  • How do we continue to hold this tension through this new year? [51:30]
  • Wisdom from the Velveteen Rabbit [54:30]
  • With intention, live into what matters most in 2021 [56:15]
  • Not all contradictions are meant to be resolved. [58:30]

 

Follow Leslie’s work: https://lesliehershberger.com/ 

 

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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

 

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Seth "Creek" Creekmore

Seth Creekmore, or “Creek,” as he is known by most of his friends has been studying the Enneagram for almost 10 years now. Having completed training under Lynda Roberts & Nan Henson, he continued learning the Enneagram through a smattering of other teachers and books and eventually completed the Awareness to Action program. He was one of the original founders of the popular Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast and now serves as the resident Millennial for the Awareness to Action Podcast. He creates Cinematic Folk music under the name Creekmore and enjoys, hiking in cold places, cooking in warm places and traveling to all the places.

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