Episode 11

Interview | Chronic Illness: When Health Means Standing Still with Brooke Gurrad

In this episode, we interview Brooke Gurrad of The Bonus Years Podcast. Brooke is an important voice in telling the story of those who live with chronic illness. She has profound wisdom to share about the dynamics of personhood for chronically ill persons and how to see and live as whole persons when life doesn’t go as planned.

[1:00] Brooke’s favorite memory of Lindsey

[3:00] A bit about The Bonus Years Podcast

[8:45] On the stakes of having a podcast that isn’t “easy to digest”

[10:15] Brooke’s story of chronic illness(es)

[19:00] Navigating the enneagram, chronic illness, and the dynamics of personhood

[23:45] What does it look like to see others as whole people?

[27:20] How Brooke’s story with chronic illness brought forward her personhood?

[31:40] The people groups that the enneagram does not serve well (and her career as a bowler!)

[37:15] Brooke cautions against some ableist tendencies in “personal growth”

[42:00] How Brook practically approaches suffering

Follow Brooke’s work and the community she leads on Instagram and Facebook: @thebonusyears. Check out her coaching and writing work at www.brookegurrad.com. And listen and subscribe to her podcast, The Bonus Years, on all major podcasting platforms.

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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

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Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore