Episode 6

Interview | Race: Socialization & Shortcomings of the Enneagram with Jessica D. Dickson

In this episode, we interview Jessica Dickson. Jessica is an enneagram teacher and host of the Antiracist Enneagram Podcast. Jessica’s wisdom on socialization and its impact on the enneagram is profound. Enjoy! 

2:35 A bit about Jessica’s work with clients

3:30 A bit about Jessica’s podcast: The Antiracist Enneagram Podcast

6:30 Coco, Encanto, and being human

8:50 The concept of socialization and its impact

19:30 The nervous system and the enneagram

21:20 How to help others become aware of their socialization

24:45 The difference between being a White person and Whiteness

29:45 Socialization and the challenge of enneagram typing

36:30 An embodied way forward 

Follow Jessica’s work: https://jessicaddickson.com/ & on insta: @jessicadickson

Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.”

Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Lindsey Marks, Drew Moser

Production/Editing: Seth Creekmore

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  • Follow Abram: @integratedenneagram
  • Follow Creek: @creekmoremusic
  • Follow Drew: @typetrailenneagram
  • Follow Lindsey: @lindseyfaithdm


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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
Serious Work for Unserious Humans

About your hosts

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Seth Abram

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Lindsey Marks

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Seth "Creek" Creekmore

Seth Creekmore, or “Creek,” as he is known by most of his friends has been studying the Enneagram for almost 10 years now. Having completed training under Lynda Roberts & Nan Henson, he continued learning the Enneagram through a smattering of other teachers and books and eventually completed the Awareness to Action program. He was one of the original founders of the popular Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast and now serves as the resident Millennial for the Awareness to Action Podcast. He creates Cinematic Folk music under the name Creekmore and enjoys, hiking in cold places, cooking in warm places and traveling to all the places.

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